When on the L.A. River Trip I took with the Huntington I was *almost* shocked to find a chair with brand-new bottles of shampoo and conditioner on it by the mossy, poluted river(I have a photo if you wish to see it)and even more shocked to see (in the glendale narrows) a full encampment set up in the bushes and weeds that had been entirely under-water only weeks before. What's more amazing is that people like you and I find it shocking to begin with.